Lily Allen’s continuing misadventures with “feminism” aside, this reminded me of that article written by a woman about a few things women wore that men she knew didn’t like, and how devastated Tumblr was.
What’s the betting “How To Be A Man, by Women” won’t receive anywhere near the same amount of scrutiny?
Students at my university are currently outraged after the SU retweeted a competition to “pimp my summer ball”, because the “p-word” is an oppressive slur and anyone who uses it must think that women are property. This is something Tumblr didn’t prepare me for.
Good to see the two images side by side, isn’t it?
Good to see one of them, anyway. The other is really rather horrible…
On the left, a super-sexy, super-angry woman who is marching forward determinedly and is about to heft those two pistols forward and blow your fucking brains out if you don’t get out of her way doublequick.
On the right, a rather sleepy-looking, super-sexualised, distorted and almost etiolated figure in a posture that combines iconographic elements of religious and romantic surrender, posing carefully with her hips tilted, bust thrust forward and one leg coyly thrown across the other to emphasise her crotch, who is about to drop her weapons as she swoons helplessly away into the sunset.
Good Lord. I love how you can FEEL the pathetic, almost ecstacy, with which these people take glee in finding any miniscule thing to complain about. Seriously, black widow is portrayed so well in these movies, but Omg her poster isn’t as hardcore looking as the one from avengers! Did no one think maybe this movie has a completely different atmosphere than avengers? Stop nitpicking you whiny bunch of cunts.
Oh and I also wanted to add something to this:
Look how battle ready he is in the avengers poster, look who he athoritatively holds his shield up and how fiercely he’s looking at the enemy! But in the Winter Soldier poster he looks almost sad, his shield on his back his mask removed.
Look at how angry he looks in the avengers poster! Look at how he holds that gun out and walks toward you with such power! But in the winter soldier poster he’s still fierce, he’s not battle ready, he’s simply addressing you. Even the look on his face isn’t as intense.
So be quiet about the Black Widow poster, they’re all less intense because the atmosphere of Avengers was about fighting and battling. The atmosphere of Winter Soldier (I’m assuming from the way they’re putting out) is more melancholy. I mean…the main villain used to be his friend, he’s become disillusioned with the people he serves under. And I don’t know if they’re going to include this in the movie, but in the comics Black Widow and winter soldier have a “past” together..so….yeah.
i noticed this too. the worst part is that in both scenes, they’re having to argue with their captain to do their job. A+ characterization of kirk right there ugh
How nice that you all are ignoring context. Wonderful.
Uhura is asking this after they’ve been shot at multiple times by Klingons who are clearly bent on killing the lot of them, and have just been cornered by them. Kirk is afraid that they are going to kill her on sight without letting her have the chance to do her job. Before this point, he had every intention of letting her do her job (“Lieutenant, how’s your Klingon?” “It’s rusty, but it’s good.” “Good, you’re coming too.”). He does not want to risk her life on the off-chance that the Klingons will listen. He is doing his duty as captain and attempting to keep everyone safe, as well as being his usual stubborn protective self (which he does for EVERYONE he cares about). He is being very Jim Kirk in this scene.
You are also ignoring the context of the conversation itself.
Uhura: They are ordering us to land. Captain, they’re gonna wanna know why we’re here. And they’re gonna torture us, question us, and they’re gonna kill us.
Kirk: So we come out shooting.
[Uhura rises from her seat and goes over to Kirk]
Uhura: We are outnumbered, outgunned. There’s no way we survive if we attack first. You brought me here because I speak Klingon, then let me speak Klingon.
You are deliberately manipulating us into believing that Kirk is shutting down Uhura’s agency and that she is pleading with him to regain it. This is not true. Jim does not want to risk the life of a valued crew-member and one of his dear friends on the off-chance that the Klingons won’t kill them on sight. This has nothing to do with sexism, and cutting out the context of this scene is a shitty and manipulative thing to do.
As for Carol’s scene, she is not actually addressing Kirk directly, but Bones. This is the scene where Bones’ arm got stuck in that torpedo. Kirk is not even physically there.
Kirk: Dr. Marcus, can you disarm it?Carol: I’m trying. I’m trying.
Bones: Jim, get her the hell out of here!
Carol: No. If you beam me back, he dies! Just let me do it!
[Carol quickly works to deactivate the torpedo]
Kirk is in no way trying to keep Carol from doing her job. She is attempting to save Bones’ life, and Kirk is very willing to let her do it. He is trusting that she will be able to deactivate the rocket. He is placing his best friend’s life into her hands: if that’s not agency, I don’t know what is.
So shut the hell up and stop being deliberately manipulative and trying to force victimization and a lack of agency on two very talented, very capable women who were not belittled or looked down on, and by no means did either occur at the hands of Jim Kirk.
Please understand that the fact MRAs exist is a BREAK IN GENDER ROLES.
The men in the movement break gender roles by simply acknowledging they have problems and asking for help. Men cannot get further from their gender role than asking for help.
Worse every single last one of you that screams male tears, or tells a man to shut up about his “fee fees”, his problems aren’t important is actively trying to stuff him back into his gender role. Then you turn around and say you are trying to free him from this behavior you JUST PARTICIPATED IN by fighting “The Patriarchy” which is what enforces his gender role…
I’m pretty sure it doesn’t get much more hypocritical than that.
I don’t understand the girls in this site. Like, at all.
- They laugh how men have fragile egos, but they complain about a fashion article for weeks.
- They hate cisgendered white men, but worship Tom Hiddleston, Benedict Cumberbatch, Jensen Ackles, Chris Evans, and other white male celebrities.
- Bash men for fetishizing lesbians, but they create fan art and fanfics where gay men are sexualized; some of them glorify rape and pedophilia. Plus, they ship real life men.
- They hate bronies for sexualizing MLP characters, then there’s Elsana porn all over the place. And they fetishized a real life person (Yuzuru Hanyu incident).
- Making kitchen/sandwich jokes is a sin, but “kill all men” is acceptable.
- Criticize men who complain about friendzoning, then they quickly call a man misogynist, racist, transphobic fat shamer if he’s not attracted to them.
Does that mean men doing shitty things doesn’t exist? Of course not. But women are equally shitty, but they seem to deny it or make up some excuse. I know they’ll say I have internalized misogyny or I don’t know what feminism is (it’s scary to think this is considered feminism). Still, this type of behavior is not only hypocritical, but unhealthy.
The double standards on this site are truly ridiculous.
I just wish people would realize that both women and men are capable of doing terrible, awful things. Women and men are capable of bullying. Women and men are capable of objectification and fetishization. Women and men are capable of making off-color, insensitive jokes. Women and men are capable of being violent, whether physically, mentally/emotionally, or sexually.
I’m not asking for them to give guys some slack. When a guy does something really shitty, calling him out is a fine idea! I’m just asking them to stop giving shitty women slack. Stop excusing their shitty actions. Biological sex do not excuse a person’s assholery. You can be an ignorant ham sandwich regardless of sex or gender.
Feminists have got no problem labeling domestic abuse, rape, street crime, and sexual assault as primarily or even exclusively female suffered incidences (despite being proven time and time again men suffer roughly equally or more in these instances), going as far to take all the funding and deny it to male victims of the same crimes, as well as jumping down throats and screaming about how trying to get any attention towards male victims is “derailing”, “men trying to make everything about themselves”, and “silencing female victims”.
But if you dare imply that Firefighters, Doctors, Soldiers, or Police Officers are primarily or even exclusively male dominated fields you best prepare your fuckin ass for a shitstorm, poster campaigns, rallies, speeches, harassment, and other such violent and silencing tactics about how there are in fact female workers in those positions and just because something is the majority does not mean all, and how you shouldn’t erase minorities.
One of my favourite hypocrisies on Tumblr is centred around its embracing of the neckbeard meme.
Here’s a site that claims to champion the cause of not telling people what to wear, of not body shaming people and never tolerating someone being a bully.
And yet here we have these overweight guys with a (poor) taste for mismatched headwear who probably receive a tonne of bullying in real life already, given what their appearance is like, being absolutely torn to shreds on here and the brunt of constant jokes. Never mind the fact that the original jokes were centred around self-depreciating humour of 4chan users basically taking the piss out of themselves. Tumblr the loving and accepting anti-bullying website that will happily embrace your right to identify as an amoeba will literally take something like that and turn it into a malicious attack on these people.
It is an absolutely superb lack of self-awareness on the part of those who indulge in some of the sort of misguided self righteousness about telling other people how much they are against bullying and how to be a good person.
Feminism is having a wardrobe malfunction.
Does your brand of feminism remove barriers for women, or simply move them around? Does is expand options for women, or does it just shift them? You don’t liberate women by forcing them to choose option B instead of option A. What is comfortable for you might not be comfortable for someone else, and it’s entirely possible that what you see as oppressive, other women find comfortable or even downright liberating.
Before you think the girl in the middle is a strawman, let me tell you I used to be her, back in my misguided youth. I considered myself the standard to which other people should adhere. But that was stupid. It’s not up to me to tell people how to dress, and it’s much nicer to let everyone choose for themselves.
Some women would feel naked without a veil. Some women would find it restrictive. Some women would feel restricted by a bra. Some women would feel naked without one. Some women would feel restricted by a tight corset. Others love them. Some wear lots of clothes with a corset. Some only wear the corset and nothing else. What makes any article of clothing oppressive is someone forcing you to wear it. And it’s just as oppressive to force someone not to wear something that they want to wear.
This is the ultimate failure of SJW comics like Shortpacked and especially Sinfest. It’s gender roles are far more restrictive that the patriarchy it rails against. There is one (1) proper way to be a woman in Sinfest, and it’s to be exactly like Xanthe (and, by extension, Tatsuya Ishida) in every thought. Any deviation is a flaw to be corrected. Women who don’t agree with Xanthe/Tats are portrayed as either incredibly stupid (Bomf girl, who hasn’t even earned a name more than three years after being introduced) or evil (Blue, Saph).
Most SJWs don’t care about feminism, or trans rights, or whatever they claim to be about. They really don’t. You think Dave Willis gives a fuck about the struggles of lesbians in modern America? Of course he fucking doesn’t. He just wants to get to feel superior.
When Jeph Jacques introduces a transgendered character and never mentions it again or deals with any of the repercussions thereof, he’s not including a transgendered character because he gives a shit. He’s not including a transgendered character at all! It’s just another quirky girl to add to the cast, whose individual problems will never be mentioned or got into any detail. Just like Faye’s PTSD, mentioned once and forgotten, or Hannelore’s mental issues, which evaporated down to “LOL she’s a neat freak”. He doesn’t give a fuck about people with mental issues or transgendered people. He just wants to be holier-than-thou for his “diversity”, when all his characters are just the same quirky girl over and over with slight variations.
Fucking Least I Could Do, which is one of the laziest, stupidest, most irritatingly awful to read without even being fake deep enough to pick apart webcomics out there, fucking Least I Could Do is better at writing women than any of the “feminist” comics, and that should not be taken as a complement to LICD, which is objectively fucking terrible. But even that piece of shit lazy sitcom joke has “women Rayne sleeps with”, “Women Rayne sleeps with but wants to date and can’t” and “Woman who won’t sleep with Rayne”. Which, pathetically enough, is better diversity that Sinfest and QC will ever have.
If all your characters are the same brain in different bodies, and you try to feel superior to others for “diversity”, you’ve done something terribly wrong as a writer.
It gets under my skin so severely when anti -feminists say things like ‘I don’t need feminism because I’m attractive.’ That doesn’t make you sound witty or edgy, it makes you sound like an immature asshole that lacks an argument.
They’ve got no problem implying that all feminists must be unattractive, but will lose their shit when a feminist calls some one a fedora wearing neckbeard.
People are not feminists because of how they look. People aren’t anti-feminists because of how they look. Resorting to an attack on personal appearance literally negates any legit argument you’ve got.
We have facts on our side. Insulting their looks isn’t part of that. Stop sinking to their level.
Fucking this ^
"not every work of fiction needs to have queer characters or poc in it"
step outside your house. walk a few blocks. every day has queer people and poc in it. unless this work of fiction takes place in your basement then in fact every work of fiction needs to have queer characters AND poc in it
Every day has poc and queer people in it, that’s 100% true, but not everyone’s story does. I literally have about five poc friends and they’re all from when I lived in Gilroy. It isn’t because of anything other then the fact that the only friends aside from those 5 I really have are my 3 best friends from elementary school, and we’re all white.
From a writing perspective, every SINGLE story doesn’t “need” anything, it needs what makes sense for that specific story. There are definitely MANY stories which have a lack of poc and queer people when there shouldn’t be, but there are many where it makes sense too (and vice verca, actually.)
Like, I write novels so I can’t speak for every kind of fiction, but stories are a complicated thing. A lot of the time a story very personal to the narrator and while the MC does interact with many kinds of people, you don’t see all that because it doesn’t all belong in the story.
My life for example —- I interact with many poc and queer people every day (i am gay myself). However, if I were a fictional character, and my author was say writing a story about my relationship with my friend Brynna or with my mom or something, we’d hardly hear about those queer people and poc I interact with every day because they’re not a big part of the story. My friend or my mom (both white and straight) are the big parts of the story. Me chatting with a poc friend during English, a class Brynna has nothing to do with, doesn’t really do anything for my plot and therefore it doesn’t belong in the story. I’m a little frazzled right now but I hope that makes sense. It isn’t to say Brynna would be the only one I interact with in my story —- but the ones, going by my personal life, who I would interact with are seriously all white and mostly cishet. There is one ftm and two poc who may be in the story but obviously I’m not writing this story so I wouldn’t really know right now.
Every single work of fiction cannot and should not cater to every identity. It’s impossible and would make for a bunch of shitty stories. One of the reasons why a lot of modern fiction sucks is because of the thing we’re all complaining about which is so much white cishet in a way that doesn’t make sense for the story. Please don’t think I’m anti diversity in fiction or anything —- I’m not, I just want to do it in a realistic fashion because books and writing means a lot for me.
Too many white/straight characters and not enough poc/queer characters IS a huge problem in modern fiction and for many stories, but not all.
What I mean is that while there is a really problematic lack of poc and queer people in fiction, inserting poc and queer characters into every single story because “that’s life” or whatever isn’t how to fix the problem. You should never put a poc in a story just because you need a poc. We need to first fix mindsets, not numbers, cause with the right mindset the numbers will come as well. It sounds really difficult but we are living in a very progressive time and honestly I personally see those numbers getting better and better every day.
ok so all these guys who are like “men have it hard too!!! we’re expected to be manly and emotionless, we have feelings!!!” do realize that it’s other men who enforce those standards on guys. literally guys created those standards to be more powerful than women. so maybe instead of getting angry at girls for talking about their oppression, realize that you should be fighting with girls against unfair gender expectations and inequality
This is so utterly wrong and ignorant, I don’t even know where to begin. If you had at least said feminists instead of girls, I could’ve TRIED to see where you’re coming from.
Gender roles were not created by men and certainly not to oppress women. They’re the result of thousands of years of evolution, shaped by a gynosympathetic society bringing forth values like chivalry that both harm and privilege women and men.
But more importantly, even regardless of the above ignorance: Do you actually believe women don’t uphold the gender binary and “patriarchal” expectations?
50% of women consider themselves pro-life in the US. There’s an incredibly high amount of conservative voters who are women. And they haven’t been brain washed either - it’s just that they disagree with your values (and mine, partly) and you act like half the female population doesn’t even exist.
They perpetuate them just as horribly as men do, sometimes worse sometimes to a lesser extent. If you think women aren’t responsible for keeping men in their shell and shaming them, you are so incredibly wrong, I’m seriously not able to find the right words here.
Do you even have any idea how women treat men who dare show unmanly tendecies on a regular basis? No? Didn’t think so.
Now stop talking out your ass about an experience you have absolutely no authority on.
Anonymous asked: Hi! You've probably gotten this question before, but please bear with me. I'm a writer, and as a bisexual female of color, I feel like there are few (if any) representations of people like me in literature. I've written several stories with lesbian, bisexual, pansexual or otherwise identifying characters, but it always felt best to end the story with the main character in a non-hetersexual or non-binary relationship. However, in my latest story, I've toyed with the idea (tbc)
Of having my bisexual cisfemale character end up with a cismale at the end after a relationship with a woman doesn’t work out. I don’t feel like the message of the story is in any way that she must end up with a man to satisfy her needs or any other stupid stereotype like that, but at the same time, it seems a little…I dunno, unsatisfying to have that be the end result? I mostly just feel like there’s no balance when it comes to writing bisexual characters because of the stereotypes that exist, and I don’t want anyone to cry foul because the path of this one character’s life led her to be with a cismale. Am I overthinking this? Sorry for this horrendously long ask, ha.
I definitely understand your concerns, considering my position as a writer as well. I feel that you have certainly done a lot of necessary thinking about this. In my opinion, your best bet is to go with what you feel works best, while assuaging your readers’ doubts about the legitimacy of that choice. Make it clear that, while both relationships were viable at a time, due to issues (that don’t deal with gender) that came up, only one was the right choice for your main character.
I’m sorry if this wasn’t helpful enough. I do have a similar question to this on the blog. Here’s the link. Hope that helps and good luck!
The most important thing is that your characters be thoughtful and well drawn out. As long as ending up in an opposite-sex relationship isn’t presented as an inevitability or a cop-out, then I think you’re fine.
I for one would love to see more bisexual characters who end up in different-sex relationships!
I agree. After all, if you only have bisexual characters end up in same-sex relationships, you’re reinforcing the idea that bisexual people aren’t ‘really queer’ (I hate that term but you all know what I mean) unless they’re in a same sex relationship. Bisexual people are no less bisexual for ending up in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex, and I think way too many people (including a lot of bisexuals) fail to realise this.
All of my characters are secretly bisexual, no matter how they end up.
the only response to something as heinously, inconceivably sexist as a sandwich joke is….. male sexual mutilation.
The disconnect is astounding. This had around 13k notes when i sent it to you