yvckybvnny said: It was a joke, not an argument, okay? I wasn't trying to prove some point about misandry. I was making a joke. Next time I will tag a joke with "joke" so that you dumb fucking assholes will understand. Also, this is really rude-do you even know why I had to say that? Because some anon was in my ask telling me I deserved to get raped, and that I should get raped again. So thanks. Really. This is AWESOME for my mental health.
You know somebody makes this argument every week, right? It’s one of the most common arguments against the existence of half the planet’s experiences, and it’s pretty laughable. This isn’t just about you. I am sorry about that anon, and you can tell them from me that they are disgusting, but they have absolutely nothing to do with me. Neither I nor my colleagues condone that sort of behaviour, but its existence does not necessarily mean that we condone yours.
All I have done is address a common but offensive and ignorant argument in a calm and peaceful way (not even addressing you any more, because I’d seen you say it was a joke by this stage - addressing the argument), so don’t you dare attempt to blame me for violent and unacceptable harassment which has absolutely nothing to do with me. I am fully on your side when it comes to that anon abuse, but trying to implicate me in it or guilt trip me is not going to make me stop addressing ignorant arguments, or make me on your side about anything else. Harassment is bad, but it doesn’t make erasing people’s experiences stop being bad. However: if the anon is reading this: I beg you to stop this sort of attack, and never repeat it.
I’m not going to tell you that it was ‘just trolling’ or for you to get over it, because I appreciate that it is a horrible thing. But I resent you thanking me. When have I ever said this sort of thing is okay? When have I ever told people to do this to you? In fact, my blog makes it very clear that I favour a non-aggressive style (I don’t even swear or use caps lock, because I don’t feel that it helps), and am strongly against attacking strangers, because we have no idea what our words will do to them. Where have you got from that that I am somehow responsible for your attack? I didn’t do it, don’t support it, and have never supported that sort of thing - on account of being a decent human being. This is why I resent your implication: because this has nothing to do with me, and you shouldn’t be using it to somehow make me feel guilty or to win an argument. That’s really not appropriate, and you know it isn’t fair.
(Inspired by this video).
Women are at a disproportionate risk of:
- Sexual violence, including forced rape
- Honor killings
Men are at a disproportionate risk of:
- Capital punishment
- Child genital mutilation
- Police brutality and oppression
- Violent theft or extortion
- Injust incarceration
- Death through poverty/homelessness
- Death during genocide
- Being sent to die at war
- Being sent to die at war as children
- Being killed or maimed by invading forces during war
- State oppression
- Gang violence
- Hate crimes (involving other characteristics such as race or sexuality)
- Workplace injury and death
- Intolerable levels of physical labour contributing to early death
- Early death due to a high-stress and demanding lifestyle
- Having their suffering compounded by being deprived of support
- Having violence against them of all types shown in popular media as trivial
- Having violence against them of all types shown in popular media as humour
Men and women are at a roughly equal risk of
- Domestic violence
- Sexual coercion
- Child molestation
- Emotional abuse
you know what. no. no. this is not funny. this is not cute, this is not something to laugh at.
every woman, every PERSON should be able to walk down the fucking street without being harassed.
whoever made this graphic. FUCK YOU
you must be male, and you must not even have the concept of being harassed on the street on a DAILY BASIS
you must have no fucking concept of what it feels like to be uncomfortable walking around in your own neighborhood, to avoid eye contact in the middle of the day because you don’t want to pretend to be interested in talking to some asshole who you have no interest in whatsoever and you just want to get home and take a nap
YOU HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA
I AM VERY ANGRY AT THIS STUPID MISOGYNISTIC GRAPHIC
thanks, internet douchebags, for teaching me that all the street harrassment I encounter on a daily basis is imaginary. I guess now when randos say vulgar and disgusting things to me I shouldn’t be upset, because they’re actually just being polite.
I wish I could read all the angry posts about this. Some of what I read is hilarious.
I AM WOMYN HEAR ME RAGE AT INTERNET COMIC
What the actual fuck, OP?
Am I reading the wrong comic here? This isn’t about people saying “rude” or “vulgar” things. Also, I don’t know where these people saying they are harassed on the street on a “daily basis” are living but I can’t even remember when I was last “harassed” on the street. The only incident I can really think of was when I was walking down a nearly empty street with my mum and some weird drunk men started shouting requests for blow jobs. This happened over a year ago and the fact I remember it shows that this sort of thing almost never happens, bringing me to believe much of the “street harassment” that happens “daily” to feminists is probably just friendly chit chat like in the above comic, where someone might comment about the weather at a bus stop or something. I get far more old ladies making small talk in lifts and in shops etc than men. Great comic, and I got good lolz from the awful feminist commentaries too.
I would criticise this as something that never happens, but it does. I have personally seen feminists complain about men saying things as innocent as ‘good morning’, and one even went on a sexist rage about men because one smiled at her. To this end, the picture makes a good point.
Whilst real harassment is awful, and we must be careful to let real victims speak up, that’s not what the cartoon is attacking. I have a feeling that the artist would be okay with real victims speaking up, just not with the ‘oppression olympics’ mentality that we see a lot in the SJ scene, where people now want to be harassed, and see harassment where there isn’t any. That’s messed up. Nowadays when I walk through town in the middle of the night I don’t get scared, because if I get attacked I’ll be thankful for all of the blogging potential. This is the kind of attitude which really damages victims - soon we’ll be telling them how lucky they are - and all of these false claims are hardly going to help them. This picture is not an offensive, rape-trivialising, victim-dismissing depiction of a non-existent crime, but the actions it depicts are. As it criticises those actions, it’s on your side.